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Feds Move To Ban Pythons & Boas

Discussion in 'General Reptile Discussion Forum' started by VARNYARD, Feb 3, 2008.

  1. VARNYARD

    VARNYARD Former Admin 5 Year Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    Feds Move To Ban Pythons & Boas.



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    The U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service has made a significant move towards banning the importation and interstate transport of Boa Constrictors and Pythons in the United States. Quietly published in the Federal Register, the agency is accepting public comments until April 30th. If enacted this will devastate an already hard hit industry, dealing a fatal death blow to a large number of businesses dependent on this segment of the industry and drying up the supply of these pets to pet owners across the United States. Noted herpetologist, author, former zookeeper, and one of the leading private researchers and breeders of pythons in the United States, David Barker, had this to say...



    This is the formal notification and request for public comments regarding the intention of USF&W Service to place ALL snakes in the genera Boa, Python, and Eunectes on the Injurious Wildlife List of the Lacey Act.

    If enacted as regulation, this will ban the importation of said snakes into the USA , and ban all interstate transportation of said snakes.

    There is a request made for public input and we feel it will be very important that all keepers with an interest in boas and pythons make written response before 30 April.

    This is VERY important. DonÃ?Æ?Ã?â??Ã?â??Ã?¢Ã?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢ââ??¬Ã?¡Ã?â??Ã?¬Ã?Æ?Ã?¢Ã?¢ââ??¬Ã?¾Ã?â??Ã?¢t take this lightly.


    Once the importation and inter-state transport has been banned, there will be a rapid exodus of breeders of these species, and eventually they will disappear from the marketplace along with a significant number of businesses and jobs. Pet owners will feel the pinch as dry goods suppliers and caging manufacturers stop producing products for that segment of the hobby, and eventually it will be impossible to obtain a new pet boa or python.

    To review the USF & W Service proposal, please look at the following document. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://kingsnake.com/FWSReview.pdf">http://kingsnake.com/FWSReview.pdf</a><!-- m -->

    Please note that this is a .pdf file and requires Adobe Acrobat to open and read it.


    UPDATE:

    On Friday, February 29, at 10 PM Eastern, in kingsnake.com's Chat Room, kingsnake.com will host a special chat on the proposed federal regulations detailed above. Invitations to participate as panelists have been submitted to the following individuals and organizations. As panelists are confirmed we will update this message and the guest list for Chat Week. More panelists may be added as required, and panelists that are unavailable will be removed from the list.

    Invited Panelists:

    PIJAC

    Reptiles Magazine

    David/Tracy Barker - Vida Preciosa Intl.

    Kamuran Tepedelen - Bushmaster Reptiles

    Kevin McCurley - N.E.R.D. ~ confirmed

    Jeff Ronne - The Boaphile

    Rich Ihle - Salmonboa.com

    Ralph Davis - Ralph Davis Reptiles ~ confirmed

    Jeff Barringer - kingsnake.com ~ confirmed

    USF&W Service

    Brian Sharp - Brian Sharp Reptiles

    Bill Brandt - Gourmet Rodent

    Wayne Hill - National Reptile Breeders Expo ~ confirmed

    Eugene Bessette - Ophiological Services

    Bob Clark - Bob Clark Reptiles ~ confirmed

    Brian Potter - NARBC/Chicago Reptile House





    As the Federal Register outlines, only comments submitted in the format that they have specified will be reviewed. Comments on message boards, BLOGs, and petitions will not be accepted or reviewed. We recommend that everyone focus their efforts on submitting comments using the required procedure rather than methods that will not produce tangible results. Individuals and businesses may submit their comments at <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=SubmitComment&o=09000064803a565f">http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/c ... 64803a565f</a><!-- m -->.


    Please take time to review the proposal in full, and only submit comments relevant to the specific requests. General comments and abusive comments are liable to be discarded, unread. Please spell check your comments before submitting them.
  2. KoreanDeathKid

    KoreanDeathKid New Member 5 Year Member

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    WHAT!!!!! do we stand any chance of owning reptiles from that day forward?!?! why should the government ban these wonderful animals, i just don't get it
  3. ApriliaRufo

    ApriliaRufo New Member 5 Year Member

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    This is not joke time. This is a time when the people who enjoy our hobby ban together, we stand up, and fight for what we believe in. We are human beings with a passion for keeping our pets, happy, safe, and a fulfilling part of our lives. Today is the day. Larry and BT were really stressing last night, and this is a time where this single action will affect us for the rest of our lives. Truly this will be felt the states over. Listen people, do not attack this through anger, fight with tact, be suave, be educated. Understand that there are people out there with little integrity who have caused this to even be considerred. Show what kind of person you are. This is now, this is today.
  4. snakehandler

    snakehandler New Member 5 Year Member

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    why would they do that?
  5. KoreanDeathKid

    KoreanDeathKid New Member 5 Year Member

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    there are obviously way too many irresponsible owners out there, and the federals are sick of paying money to shelters to care for unwanted exotic pets, it's all the escaped pets, and released pets that's causing problems in a land that they are not native to
  6. nat

    nat New Member 5 Year Member

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    This is almost as bad as BC's plan to ban exotic animals as pets outright.... good luck with fighting this one guys! I will do what I can on my end of North America to fight it with you. Kinda strange how so many exotic bylaws are popping up all at once across canada and the united states.
  7. ColdThirst

    ColdThirst New Member 5 Year Member

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    I wrote them a long one, that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard, and a result of lazy state officials that know nothing about reptiles and consrictor snakes in general.
  8. snakehandler

    snakehandler New Member 5 Year Member

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    This law wont solve that problem. The only way to solve it is to get people educted and responsable,
  9. redtail2426

    redtail2426 New Member 5 Year Member

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    Well even if they do ban them which hopefully they wont, it's not like you cant get your hands on things that are illegal. Just think of all the things that are considered illegal but still go on in our country today.
  10. ApriliaRufo

    ApriliaRufo New Member 5 Year Member

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    Federal and State Funded Reptile Rescues will eliminate this problem. All over people have nowhere to turn to. Independent Reptile Rescues (Bless them) are doing their best, but it's so easy to drop a dog off at the pound, but nearly impossible to get a big snake a new home. We as herpers are here to help, but no one even asks questions. Our government has failed us yet again. If I could work at a reptile rescue that was run like the spca, i'd quit my job in a heartbeat. Getting rescued reptiles new homes for small adoption fees? Perfection.
  11. KoreanDeathKid

    KoreanDeathKid New Member 5 Year Member

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    it's not just reptiles once you think about it, there are people out there dealing with other furry exotics, reptiles are just first in line
  12. Little Wise Owl

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    This is ridiculous... This would put ALOT of people out of business... This would also certainly ruin my future aswell as many others. This is a big and bad drastic step. It's too bad the majority of them probably don't know two $%!*s about snakes either. I personally think that there should be a certain test that people should take if they want to own/breed large constrictors that reach Over 10 feet. And if they pass that test then they get a permit for owning it. Come on people it's not that hard.

    That link you offered didn't work but I'm not exactly sure what to do since I'm not from the US.
  13. VARNYARD

    VARNYARD Former Admin 5 Year Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    Tegus could be next!! We need your help guys!!

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    this whole thing is insane! now that they found a tegu running loose they will try to get rid of them. then monitors. and after that all reptiles. these people know not what they are talking about. they just want somthing to do. i though the government had more important things to deal with then taking peoples pets away. there are thousands of dogs running wild on the streets. are they going to do anything about that? they get in my trash and tear it to pieces. they poop in my yard. and they eat some peoples livestock. but you find one snake and one tegu and all hell breaks loose.
  15. reptastic

    reptastic Moderator 5 Year Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    i posted a nice long comment, and for those that think tegus and other large lizards arent next, look at the media now they are targeting tegus in florida. if we dont speak up no one will speak for us!
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    it makes no sense to me. this tegu and whatever snakes they have found were probably minding their own business. they didnt want to be around people. they just wanted to chill out in the woods. or in the swamps. and people freak out. but an aggressive dog on the streets is ok. i have to take a baseball bat when i go walking to protect myself and my girlfriend from crazy dogs running around because they try to attack. i dont think i will ever have to carry a baseball bat to protect myself from a snake and a tegu trying to attack me.
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  18. Utahraptor

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    that was a very interesting link, Marlene. I wonder if those numbers for the Humane society's gross income and spending on local shelters are accurate. What a shame that our local shelters can't even get good money from their supposed parent organization.

    That quote from the Humane society's report on reptile keeping makes it pretty clear what their intentions are though. I don't know how you could take that out of context.

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