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Is it possible to cross columbians and argentines?

dragonmetalhead

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It used to be thought that two species could only hybridize if they were in the same genus. This is far from the case, especially when you consider that "genus" is a human invention. Beefalo are a perfect example, as they are half bison (Bison bison) and half domestic cattle (Bos primigenius). Obviously, if two species are more closely related there is a higher probability of genetic compatibility. Hypothetically, it makes sense that you could cross a Colombian with an Argentine but it seems the greatest issue would be would the two animals mate with each other. If someone were to try this, perhaps artificial insemination is the route to take. I once met a guy who had a blood/Burmese python hybrid that was 200 pounds and ate cats.
 
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dragonmetalhead said:
It used to be thought that two species could only hybridize if they were in the same genus. This is far from the case, especially when you consider that "genus" is a human invention. Beefalo are a perfect example, as they are half bison (Bison bison) and half domestic cattle (Bos primigenius). Obviously, if two species are more closely related there is a higher probability of genetic compatibility. Hypothetically, it makes sense that you could cross a Colombian with an Argentine but it seems the greatest issue would be would the two animals mate with each other. If someone were to try this, perhaps artificial insemination is the route to take. I once met a guy who had a blood/Burmese python hybrid that was 200 pounds and ate cats.

blood python x burmese python XD thats awesome sounding i heard about that somewhere
 

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dragonmetalhead said:
It used to be thought that two species could only hybridize if they were in the same genus. This is far from the case, especially when you consider that "genus" is a human invention. Beefalo are a perfect example, as they are half bison (Bison bison) and half domestic cattle (Bos primigenius). Obviously, if two species are more closely related there is a higher probability of genetic compatibility. Hypothetically, it makes sense that you could cross a Colombian with an Argentine but it seems the greatest issue would be would the two animals mate with each other. If someone were to try this, perhaps artificial insemination is the route to take. I once met a guy who had a blood/Burmese python hybrid that was 200 pounds and ate cats.

Geez, a 200 pound snake with an attitude:huh:
 

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It does not happen in the wild, as far as experts go. Why would anyone want it to in the pet trade? I cannot see where there would be even any value in doing so in the pet trade, let alone any sound reasoning behind trying it. A beaded skin Vs a smooth skin? An attitude adjustment? Coloring? Size?... or Just to be the first one? :mad:
Sorry, but that is just how I feel about even the thought of it.
 

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Are you sure it was a blood/Burm? It sounds more like a Bateater (reticxburm).

This was over 10 years ago. I never saw the snake in person, just a photo, and at the time I'd never heard of a blood python. It looked like a significantly-meatier-than-average Burm with lots of reddish color and unusual markings.
 

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dragonmetalhead said:
It used to be thought that two species could only hybridize if they were in the same genus. This is far from the case, especially when you consider that "genus" is a human invention. Beefalo are a perfect example, as they are half bison (Bison bison) and half domestic cattle (Bos primigenius). Obviously, if two species are more closely related there is a higher probability of genetic compatibility. Hypothetically, it makes sense that you could cross a Colombian with an Argentine but it seems the greatest issue would be would the two animals mate with each other. If someone were to try this, perhaps artificial insemination is the route to take. I once met a guy who had a blood/Burmese python hybrid that was 200 pounds and ate cats.
Maybe if You were breeding a male colombian to a Argentine you could rub a female Colombians shed on the argentine. The method works on snakes because snakes rely more on smell, I don't know about tegus.

BTW a beefalo is 3/8 bison or less :p
 

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@Dragon...no worries, I was just chatting. :)

My females would probably eat my male Colombian if he tried to mate with them. ;)
 

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Hybrid said:
dragonmetalhead said:
It used to be thought that two species could only hybridize if they were in the same genus. This is far from the case, especially when you consider that "genus" is a human invention. Beefalo are a perfect example, as they are half bison (Bison bison) and half domestic cattle (Bos primigenius). Obviously, if two species are more closely related there is a higher probability of genetic compatibility. Hypothetically, it makes sense that you could cross a Colombian with an Argentine but it seems the greatest issue would be would the two animals mate with each other. If someone were to try this, perhaps artificial insemination is the route to take. I once met a guy who had a blood/Burmese python hybrid that was 200 pounds and ate cats.
Maybe if You were breeding a male colombian to a Argentine you could rub a female Colombians shed on the argentine. The method works on snakes because snakes rely more on smell, I don't know about tegus.

BTW a beefalo is 3/8 bison or less :p

Trying to figure out the math of 3/8 of an animal process here. Please elaborate on that one.
If half of a half is a quarter . So would it mean that you would have to breed a full cow with an animal that is only a quarter buffalo ?. That would sound like a lot of time and work for what is essentially still a cow.
 

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got10 said:
Hybrid said:
dragonmetalhead said:
It used to be thought that two species could only hybridize if they were in the same genus. This is far from the case, especially when you consider that "genus" is a human invention. Beefalo are a perfect example, as they are half bison (Bison bison) and half domestic cattle (Bos primigenius). Obviously, if two species are more closely related there is a higher probability of genetic compatibility. Hypothetically, it makes sense that you could cross a Colombian with an Argentine but it seems the greatest issue would be would the two animals mate with each other. If someone were to try this, perhaps artificial insemination is the route to take. I once met a guy who had a blood/Burmese python hybrid that was 200 pounds and ate cats.
Maybe if You were breeding a male colombian to a Argentine you could rub a female Colombians shed on the argentine. The method works on snakes because snakes rely more on smell, I don't know about tegus.

BTW a beefalo is 3/8 bison or less :p

Trying to figure out the math of 3/8 of an animal process here. Please elaborate on that one.
If half of a half is a quarter . So would it mean that you would have to breed a full cow with an animal that is only a quarter buffalo ?. That would sound like a lot of time and work for what is essentially still a cow.
Breed a 50/50 cow bison hybrid to a 75/25 Cow bison hybrid and there you go. This has been found to produce an animal with the most desirable traits. Beefalo is considered a pure cow breed(I don't know why though, it doesn't matter which breed of cow was used in the hybrid either). Any cow bison hybrid with more than 3/8 bison is just considered a bison hybrid. I think its the "perfect" cow breed when compared to any other cow :)
The only reason I know this is because I accidentally signed up for an agriculture class lol
 

Dana C

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Once again I have a couple of thoughts on the matter.
While I can't be positive, it may be that some of their range may over lap. If so one would think that inter breeding would have already occurred, which to my knowledge it hasn't. Once again, I will hang my hat on, "It is just what I thing based upon my humble knowledge".
My second thought would be that a larger Tegu, i.e. a Merianea, wouldn't breed with a Columbian but feed on it if it could. Smaller lizard = big meal.
 

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got10 said:
Hybrid said:
dragonmetalhead said:
It used to be thought that two species could only hybridize if they were in the same genus. This is far from the case, especially when you consider that "genus" is a human invention. Beefalo are a perfect example, as they are half bison (Bison bison) and half domestic cattle (Bos primigenius). Obviously, if two species are more closely related there is a higher probability of genetic compatibility. Hypothetically, it makes sense that you could cross a Colombian with an Argentine but it seems the greatest issue would be would the two animals mate with each other. If someone were to try this, perhaps artificial insemination is the route to take. I once met a guy who had a blood/Burmese python hybrid that was 200 pounds and ate cats.
Maybe if You were breeding a male colombian to a Argentine you could rub a female Colombians shed on the argentine. The method works on snakes because snakes rely more on smell, I don't know about tegus.

BTW a beefalo is 3/8 bison or less :p

Trying to figure out the math of 3/8 of an animal process here. Please elaborate on that one.
If half of a half is a quarter . So would it mean that you would have to breed a full cow with an animal that is only a quarter buffalo ?. That would sound like a lot of time and work for what is essentially still a cow.
Breed a 50/50 cow bison hybrid to a 75/25 Cow bison hybrid and there you go. This has been found to produce an animal with the most desirable traits. Beefalo is considered a pure cow breed(I don't know why though, it doesn't matter which breed of cow was used in the hybrid either). Any cow bison hybrid with more than 3/8 bison is just considered a bison hybrid. I think its the "perfect" cow breed when compared to any other cow :)
The only reason I know this is because I accidentally signed up for an agriculture class lol

Thats is very informative . It shows im never too old to learn.Thanks
 

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