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thank you and im just being straight foward and honest. he may not like the responses but its reality. many many people have been injured by these animals, they have been sold off or even released into the wild due to their agressiveness and evidence of that is in flordia and laws moving to ban them from being kept. be it because inexperience or ignorance, this species or more specifically subspecies, is a very tough captive and even owners on the threads i shown say those words and they themselves get attacked frequently and are def not a beginning monitor keeper(which he is)'s dream. the sad reality is that those "wild" flordia niles are being killed with extreme prejudice to clean up the mess of their forefathers' keepers. they are not very forgiving captives unlike the beardies, iggs and tegus he already keeps. their health can turn south for any number of reasons including too little humidity or basking temp.

Dereks-Dragons:  i pray you did get that exception to the rule because i dread the much more likely outcome. also in your original thread you stated you were going to get it to a vet for a clean bill of health, did you? that could rule out sickness and help with you calm theory. also just for my arguement in the orignal thread you showed his brother and how "nasty as all hell" he was with a pic of him biting his keepers hand. thats how an ornate is suppose to act.

im just being straight up. im trying to imply no attitude but i wont sugar coat it. im sorry if it comes off harshly but if i try to be nice and say "oh hes probably an exception, your very lucky" he could sit idly by while it slowly dies from parasites or an infection because its basking spot was not warm enough to create proper diggestion or ambient temps were not warm enough to support its needs. or worse still it could get better and one day want to taste his hand because he went to pet its face to show a friend how "tame" it is. what then? the animal get punished for the mistakes of its sole means for survival(the keeper) just by being the creature of its natural instincts and and the rule of thumb for its species.

again im trying to keep attitude out but im looking out for him(and his folks because even if its tame towards him it most surely does not know them and may see them as a real threat) but im honestly more worried about the lizard and its well being.

if our advise was followed and he asked what kind of large monitor to get i would have probably have said black throat because they are more hardy of a species and have better temperments and tolerate a beginning keepers mistakes better.

thats my whole hearted opinion and i even gave examples, links and an alternative to back my points. take from it what you will