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EMERGENCY!!!! HELP!!! Cyclura legality!!

Beasty

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I have a GC Blue HYBRID I'm stating as such trying to sell locally in Utah. I got it from David Blair and have the certificate that came with it. Now some local a$$hole is threatening me with game and wildlife because I'm selling it. He says illegal. From what I know of it it is indeed legal. What WAS somewhat gray area has since been cleared up now and hybrids are certainly legal. Can ANYONE substantiate this for me? I need a link to a government document or something in case game and wildlife yokals come over here and try to KILL my animal!
I wrote Blair about it and am awaiting response.
ANY input would be MOST appreciated!
Thanks!!
 

VARNYARD

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You have nothing to worry about, it is a hybrid, hybrids are not protected. They are documented hybrids, and there are no regulations on sales of them.


David Blair:
GRAND CAYMAN HYBRID ROCKS Ã?¢ââ??¬Ã?â??ROCKYÃ?¢ââ??¬Ã? (Cyclura nubila) 2008 HatchÃ?¢ââ??¬Ã?¦Ã?¢ââ??¬Ã?¦(6 males and 4 females available)......$279. Ea. These very large, attractive iguanas make excellent captives and can become quite tame. These are likely C. n. lewisi/caymanensis hybrids and often exhibit some of the very desirable blue and light gray coloration. As with all Cyclura nubila species, the sclera (whites of the eye) can be blood-red in color and gives this iguana a truly spectacular appearance! Sales to other states are permitted without any federal permit required on these documented hybrid animals. These 2008 hatched iguanas are all Ã?¢ââ??¬Ã?â??grand childrenÃ?¢ââ??¬Ã? of our well-known and impressive male, "Big Blue" whose photographs have been featured in Ã?¢ââ??¬Ã?â??ReptilesÃ?¢ââ??¬Ã?Â, Ã?¢ââ??¬Ã?â??Reptiles USAÃ?¢ââ??¬Ã?Â, Ã?¢ââ??¬Ã?â??The VivariumÃ?¢ââ??¬Ã?Â, Ã?¢ââ??¬Ã?â??The Green Iguana ManualÃ?¢ââ??¬Ã? and other books, magazines and other international publications. These hatchlings are from Big BlueÃ?¢ââ??‰â??¢s adult son, Ã?¢ââ??¬Ã?â??ROCKYÃ?¢ââ??¬Ã?Â, a very large and heavy-bodied Blue Cayman hybrid, and Ã?¢â??¬Ã?â??Mistress BlueÃ?¢ââ??¬Ã?Â, a very nice female with a little less blue than Ã?¢ââ??¬Ã?â??Mrs. BlueÃ?¢ââ??¬Ã?Â.
 

Beasty

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True enough. I do have documents on purchase, certificate that came with, emails to David, paypal records, ALL that stuff. BUT I spoke with a guy the other day in Cali who had a GCB hybrid who had his aunt take it to the vet for him and they said it was illegal and killed it. That's why I was buggin'. If fish and game comes over here I'm gonna be on the news for wiggin' out on some F*tard if they try to kill my lizard. Some busy body guy.
:evil: No sir. Didn't like it!
 

Red Earth Exotics

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I would be pissed off too man! Some people just have no lives are so miserable with themselves that they have to try and cause trouble with other people. :evil: Hope nothing comes of this man, good luck.
 

Beasty

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Geez!
This guy is supposedly a biologist and is ALL bashing on me and even contacted Fred Burton @ blueiguana.ky who straightened it out. Yep! It's legal. Duh!
Like I'd advertise I had a full blooded Blue! HA! Much less try to sell it!!
I might be crazy but I ain't stupid! :grno
Damned pencil pusher needs to take his slide ruler to someone else's life and see how they measure up. :rasp
 

VARNYARD

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Well the key word is HYBRID, if he is a real biologist, and that part I really doubt, he would know that HYBRIDS do not fall under any such laws. Not a very bright biologist, lol. :crazy
 

Beasty

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Amen! Exactly what I said!
And he went and bothered Fred about it and forwarded my ad to him. Ugg! Some people! Honestly, what kind of retard would cop to such a thing as HAVING much less SELLING a 100% blue anyway? And in a PUBLIC classified ad no less! Well, I hope he's happy with his half cocked rant he threw on me for nothing. Said he forwarded it to all the news stations and local governments and Fred and all sorts of folks and copied my ad for "evidence". :lol: What an idiot!
 

argus333

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from what i understand only true blues are illegal, and only illegal if no cites permit. hybrids are not. if u bought this lizard from calif. with no cites permit u have nothing to worry about. look on cites website. also know one is selling or transporting true blues anyway all there is is cubans and hybrids.
 

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