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First off it is Wil, not Will. And second if I read your post out of "context" than how easy do you think it would be for HSUS or PETA to do the same thing??? I'm not saying you are for taking my freedoms away, I just seen your post as ammunition to groups like them. You know, the whole, "See people in that hobby have some of the same views we do" kind of thing. Only difference is that you want fewer breeders and they want NO breeders.

You said that there should be less breeders and fewer animals produced. Yet most of your examples are of animals that are mostly imported. Green iguannas are not captive bred on a real large scale, maybe with the exception of Crutchfield and the albino iguannas. Instead of saying there are too many animals being produced by breeders maybe you should say that there are too many imports.

The other side of importing though is that it provides income for thousands of people in third world countries. Stop the importing and you crush a fragile economy. It's a touchy situation all around.

Also I don't see people that usually post on craigslist as hobbyists. Most of them haven't a clue about what they have and most of them have animals that were more than likely imported and not purchased from a breeder.

I can appreciate and understand your frustrations with some of the aspects of our hobby, but please also consider this. A lot of the big breeders are great people and care about their animals. I have many breeder friends big, small and everything in between. So don't take offense to my statements as I am not the most sensitive at times and I can be a little rough around the edges.

Oh and by the way, for those that have no clue, my reference to the Constitution is the first sentence in the oath I took when I enlisted in the United Sates Navy.

<blockquote data-quote="Wil" data-source="post: 69244" data-attributes="member: 329">First off it is Wil, not Will. And second if I read your post out of &quot;context&quot; than how easy do you think it would be for HSUS or PETA to do the same thing??? I'm not saying you are for taking my freedoms away, I just seen your post as ammunition to groups like them. You know, the whole, &quot;See people in that hobby have some of the same views we do&quot; kind of thing. Only difference is that you want fewer breeders and they want NO breeders. You said that there should be less breeders and fewer animals produced. Yet most of your examples are of animals that are mostly imported. Green iguannas are not captive bred on a real large scale, maybe with the exception of Crutchfield and the albino iguannas. Instead of saying there are too many animals being produced by breeders maybe you should say that there are too many imports. The other side of importing though is that it provides income for thousands of people in third world countries. Stop the importing and you crush a fragile economy. It's a touchy situation all around.Also I don't see people that usually post on craigslist as hobbyists. Most of them haven't a clue about what they have and most of them have animals that were more than likely imported and not purchased from a breeder.I can appreciate and understand your frustrations with some of the aspects of our hobby, but please also consider this. A lot of the big breeders are great people and care about their animals. I have many breeder friends big, small and everything in between. So don't take offense to my statements as I am not the most sensitive at times and I can be a little rough around the edges.Oh and by the way, for those that have no clue, my reference to the Constitution is the first sentence in the oath I took when I enlisted in the United Sates Navy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wil, post: 69244, member: 329"] First off it is Wil, not Will. And second if I read your post out of "context" than how easy do you think it would be for HSUS or PETA to do the same thing??? I'm not saying you are for taking my freedoms away, I just seen your post as ammunition to groups like them. You know, the whole, "See people in that hobby have some of the same views we do" kind of thing. Only difference is that you want fewer breeders and they want NO breeders. You said that there should be less breeders and fewer animals produced. Yet most of your examples are of animals that are mostly imported. Green iguannas are not captive bred on a real large scale, maybe with the exception of Crutchfield and the albino iguannas. Instead of saying there are too many animals being produced by breeders maybe you should say that there are too many imports. The other side of importing though is that it provides income for thousands of people in third world countries. Stop the importing and you crush a fragile economy. It's a touchy situation all around. Also I don't see people that usually post on craigslist as hobbyists. Most of them haven't a clue about what they have and most of them have animals that were more than likely imported and not purchased from a breeder. I can appreciate and understand your frustrations with some of the aspects of our hobby, but please also consider this. A lot of the big breeders are great people and care about their animals. I have many breeder friends big, small and everything in between. So don't take offense to my statements as I am not the most sensitive at times and I can be a little rough around the edges. Oh and by the way, for those that have no clue, my reference to the Constitution is the first sentence in the oath I took when I enlisted in the United Sates Navy. [/QUOTE]

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