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I think you guys are giving a lot of people in the reptile community waaaaaay too much credit. I've been involved in this hobby for 25 years now and I can tell you that while there are a bunch of smaller-scale breeders, like Bobby, who truly care about offering a quality product (yes, your tegu or boa or bearded dragon IS a product to these types of breeders, regardless of how loving and high-pitched your voice is when you talk to to your animal), there are enough large-scale breeders with HUGE amounts of money (well, HUGE, relative to the smaller breeders) to spend on advertising and creating the facade of being a reputable breeder ("their website looks pro so they MUST be a quality breeder, right?"). These are the people that don't care about anything other than your credit card number--not your age, experience, intentions...NADA. They just want to get paid. They work with such huge numbers of animals and money that, in the end, the well-being of the animal is secondary or tertiary to their profits. Currently, there is at least one veterinarian that is KNOWINGLY endorsing vitamin supplements for reptiles that DO NOT PROVIDE the intended / advertised benefits....why? Because he can? Why? Because the pet industry is seriously lacking when it comes to regulation and, as long as it is, HE'S GONNA GET HIS (see: PAID).

So, what's one to do? Be educated ahead of time. Buy your animals from reputable sources. Continue educating yourself about your animals and their industry (the more you know about your species' origins, trade-history, current breeders/distributors, etc...the better prepared you can be to make decisions related to your animals.).

Tegukid...you're being a punk and need to chill out--throwing out a lot of mean-spirited adjectives and insults does ZERO for your credibility here as a tegu or reptile enthusiast.

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<blockquote data-quote="slideaboot" data-source="post: 69687" data-attributes="member: 1272">I think you guys are giving a lot of people in the reptile community waaaaaay too much credit.&nbsp; I've been involved in this hobby for 25 years now and I can tell you that while there are a bunch of smaller-scale breeders, like Bobby, who truly care about offering a quality product (yes, your tegu or boa or bearded dragon IS a product to these types of breeders, regardless of how loving and high-pitched your voice is when you talk to to your animal), there are enough large-scale breeders with HUGE amounts of money (well, HUGE, relative to the smaller breeders) to spend on advertising and creating the facade of being a reputable breeder (&quot;their website looks pro so they MUST be a quality breeder, right?&quot;).&nbsp; These are the people that don't care about anything other than your credit card number--not your age, experience, intentions...NADA.&nbsp; They just want to get paid.&nbsp; They work with such huge numbers of animals and money that, in the end, the well-being of the animal is secondary or tertiary to their profits.&nbsp; Currently, there is at least one veterinarian that is KNOWINGLY endorsing vitamin supplements for reptiles that DO NOT PROVIDE the intended / advertised benefits....why?&nbsp; Because he can?&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because the pet industry is seriously lacking when it comes to regulation and, as long as it is, HE'S GONNA GET HIS (see: PAID).&nbsp; So, what's one to do?&nbsp; Be educated ahead of time.&nbsp; Buy your animals from reputable sources.&nbsp; Continue educating yourself about your animals and their industry (the more you know about your species' origins, trade-history, current breeders/distributors, etc...the better prepared you can be to make decisions related to your animals.).Tegukid...you're being a punk and need to chill out--throwing out a lot of mean-spirited adjectives and insults does ZERO for your credibility here as a tegu or reptile enthusiast.&nbsp; **End transmission</blockquote>

[QUOTE="slideaboot, post: 69687, member: 1272"] I think you guys are giving a lot of people in the reptile community waaaaaay too much credit. I've been involved in this hobby for 25 years now and I can tell you that while there are a bunch of smaller-scale breeders, like Bobby, who truly care about offering a quality product (yes, your tegu or boa or bearded dragon IS a product to these types of breeders, regardless of how loving and high-pitched your voice is when you talk to to your animal), there are enough large-scale breeders with HUGE amounts of money (well, HUGE, relative to the smaller breeders) to spend on advertising and creating the facade of being a reputable breeder ("their website looks pro so they MUST be a quality breeder, right?"). These are the people that don't care about anything other than your credit card number--not your age, experience, intentions...NADA. They just want to get paid. They work with such huge numbers of animals and money that, in the end, the well-being of the animal is secondary or tertiary to their profits. Currently, there is at least one veterinarian that is KNOWINGLY endorsing vitamin supplements for reptiles that DO NOT PROVIDE the intended / advertised benefits....why? Because he can? Why? Because the pet industry is seriously lacking when it comes to regulation and, as long as it is, HE'S GONNA GET HIS (see: PAID). So, what's one to do? Be educated ahead of time. Buy your animals from reputable sources. Continue educating yourself about your animals and their industry (the more you know about your species' origins, trade-history, current breeders/distributors, etc...the better prepared you can be to make decisions related to your animals.). Tegukid...you're being a punk and need to chill out--throwing out a lot of mean-spirited adjectives and insults does ZERO for your credibility here as a tegu or reptile enthusiast. **End transmission [/QUOTE]

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