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ToadHallBetty

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Little Buddy has become friendly enough to walk all over me. Last night I noticed some orange red coloring on his belly scales. His scales are fine, he's not injured. I'm just wondering if B&W tegus all have some red orange color on the belly or is Little Buddy expressing hi creative side?
Thanks, Betty Morgan
 

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My girl is about 12% red, genetically, and she has little orange/red scales scattered on the bottom of her feet and her belly, mostly the feet. Maybe at some point one of your gus relatives was a red! If its not a very red belly and is just some bits of scales are
 

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Thanks everyone,
I've done some online searching and evidently I have a "Florida Firebelly"
Some of the Florida Tegus have this trait, no way to know what may be in the mix, but that's okay. Little Buddy is fine just the way he is.
 

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Typical firebelly from Florida wild caught. It's almost an orangey-coraly color, that distinguishes them from other Tegus. My Skully's is almost gone now - as he gets older, it has faded.
 

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Typical firebelly from Florida wild caught. It's almost an orangey-coraly color, that distinguishes them from other Tegus. My Skully's is almost gone now - as he gets older, it has faded.
Orangey-coraly is a good description .I didn't notice the color when I got Little Buddy but I didn't look for it. Not until he got tame enough to come out of his inclosure on his own.
 

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My Girl Sketchy is a wild Florida caught as well. Her belly has reddish scales too and her white scales on her back has orange in it too.
 

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ToadHallBetty

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Little Buddy has a redish Belly, it almost looks like he was sitting on wet red clay.. Pictures will be coming as soon as he decides to stop brumating .
Your girl is lovely. It's amazing how easy it is to tame a wild Florida tegu.
 

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That red belly is a very common trait in Salvator merianae, and contrary to what some people want to claim, it has nothing to do with coming from Florida wild caught. It's a very common trait seen in tegus in the wild in South America, it doesn't relate to it being a cross with Salvator rufescens, the term "Florida fire bellies" is just a marketing scheme.
 

ToadHallBetty

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That red belly is a very common trait in Salvator merianae, and contrary to what some people want to claim, it has nothing to do with coming from Florida wild caught. It's a very common trait seen in tegus in the wild in South America, it doesn't relate to it being a cross with Salvator rufescens, the term "Florida fire bellies" is just a marketing scheme.
LOL, you have to admit that "Florida Fire Belly" sounds good. I never even noticed Little Buddy's red belly until he became tame. I'm glad I didn't purchase a "fire belly" because it is fading away.
 

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Agree with Roadkill, but the name has caught on, and you can pretty much count on the wild-caughts from Florida to have them....like a signature. If there's red scales anywhere else on the animal, like it's face, I would presume it was crossed somewhere with a red.

With breeders lying about captive bred, and your new Tegu has a coral belly, there's a good chance (not sure if it's 100%) it was wild-caught from Florida. If someone knows that I'm absolutely wrong about this, I'd love to know. thanks!
 

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Agree with Roadkill, but the name has caught on, and you can pretty much count on the wild-caughts from Florida to have them....like a signature. If there's red scales anywhere else on the animal, like it's face, I would presume it was crossed somewhere with a red.

With breeders lying about captive bred, and your new Tegu has a coral belly, there's a good chance (not sure if it's 100%) it was wild-caught from Florida. If someone knows that I'm absolutely wrong about this, I'd love to know. thanks!
With regards to your first paragraph, I'd very much disagree with this. Salvator merianae shows tremendous variability and although I wouldn't say it's common, I HAVE seen red colouring in them that I can guarantee had nothing to do with any kind of crossing with S.rufescens. Now having said this, the red colouring I've seen in S.merianae was quite distinct from that typically seen in S.rufescens. It is more of a peach or salmon hue, compared to the rust or burnt red of S.rufescens.

Considering how common the "firebelly" trait is, I wouldn't say it a good indication of it being wild-caught from Florida. However, beings as almost no one really keeps track of provenance or pedigree, and claims are often made up out of conjecture....it's really hard to say one way or another if you came across one where it was likely from.
 

ToadHallBetty

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LOL, thanks everyone, I have learned a lot about red bellies :)

Little Buddy was wild caught in Florida, that was part of the reason I purchased him. I live about 30 minutes from the Florida state line and I think it is a good idea to snag tegus, chameleons...whatever is invasive and get it into the pet trade instead of just killng them.

Little Buddy is getting really tame. LOL my Florida Fire Belly ;)
 

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