Worried about Kimo, take a look please!

[TheTeguGurl]

I dont know about swabbing his mouth...with that stuff.. I had a Tegu come to me in care he had really bad MBD. his mouth open just a bit. i just kept it really clean with luke warm water. Don't feed him in his enclosure and when he is done eating just make sure his mouth is cleaned off of any left over food. I wouldn't rule out that he has MBD so i wold do " your plan" If he isnt getting better I would take him to a vet ASAP

 

[reptastic]

The peroxide will help keep it from getting infected, by swabbing it you are moving food and other particles that can build up and cause complications, thats how the vet explained it to me with my iguana, and his was so bad he ultiately lost all his teeth on his lower right side jaw

 

[james.w]

I would definitely get the powersun back in, they have a longer range of effective UVB than the coil or tube style bulbs. I would guess it is a calcium deficiency if the MVB bulb just recently went bad. If the temps get too high from the 160W, get a 100W and just raise the basking spot to the bulb.

 

[Max713]

Alright well, obviously the new lamp will have to wait, but the diet changes today:

Fresh fruit, tilapia, grapes, chicken liver, chicken heart.

 

[james.w]

Now make sure all of that gets dusted with calcium powder, but don't overdo it.

Another thing you could do depending on weather, is get him outside for some natural sunlight. It is better than any UVB bulb there is.

 

[chelvis]

Wow i didnt fallow this as close as i had hoped. Yep it sounds like early MBD can easily be fixed. Like people said the diets and bulbs all need to be re worked.

Also do not use hydrogen poroxide. That cause dissue damage and really should not be used on soft tissues around the mouth. I know some vets still recomend it, but its not a good iead. Use a salt water or saline water to rinse the mouth, only if it looks like sores.

 

[Riplee]

As my experience it is a sign of lack of the vitamin.

Does he have the shedding problem?

Try feed him some beef liver and fish oil once a week.

 

[Max713]

Wow i didnt fallow this as close as i had hoped. Yep it sounds like early MBD can easily be fixed. Like people said the diets and bulbs all need to be re worked.

Also do not use hydrogen poroxide. That cause dissue damage and really should not be used on soft tissues around the mouth. I know some vets still recomend it, but its not a good iead. Use a salt water or saline water to rinse the mouth, only if it looks like sores.

There aren't any sores present, thinking I'll hold off on the rinse?
Putting the bulb in the mail tomorrow, hoping it won't take TOO long to get her...
He didn't eat much today, one mouth ful of turkey, 1/4"x3/8" piece of chicken heart, and grabbed a piece of grape but spit it back out.
Everything was pretty thoroughly dusted with Vit other than the grapes.

As my experience it is a sign of lack of the vitamin.

Does he have the shedding problem?

Try feed him some beef liver and fish oil once a week.

Thats another weird thing about Kimo, he's only shed once in the 4 months I've had him! That she wasn't "bad", although his toes were just a little bit stubborn.

 

[Jefroka]

Really hard to beat basking in the sun outdoors. You have great support here and I believe you are on track as to how to provide him a speedy recovery.

Best of luck!


...Jefroka

 

[chelvis]

I'd give him time. But like Jefroka said natural sun light really can not be beat. Chances are he might have has early stages of MBD and other deffiancies before he slowed down and now that he is warming up again they are starting to show again. Once they are all remadied you should see strenght return, energy, growth and shedding.

 

[Riplee]

Wow i didnt fallow this as close as i had hoped. Yep it sounds like early MBD can easily be fixed. Like people said the diets and bulbs all need to be re worked.

Also do not use hydrogen poroxide. That cause dissue damage and really should not be used on soft tissues around the mouth. I know some vets still recomend it, but its not a good iead. Use a salt water or saline water to rinse the mouth, only if it looks like sores.

There aren't any sores present, thinking I'll hold off on the rinse?
Putting the bulb in the mail tomorrow, hoping it won't take TOO long to get her...
He didn't eat much today, one mouth ful of turkey, 1/4"x3/8" piece of chicken heart, and grabbed a piece of grape but spit it back out.
Everything was pretty thoroughly dusted with Vit other than the grapes.

As my experience it is a sign of lack of the vitamin.

Does he have the shedding problem?

Try feed him some beef liver and fish oil once a week.

Thats another weird thing about Kimo, he's only shed once in the 4 months I've had him! That she wasn't "bad", although his toes were just a little bit stubborn.

Sign of vitamin deficiency:
1. the mouth like your tegu
2. Shedding Problem.

U got both.

So try my suggestion, he will be fine in a few months.

Thank you.

 

[Max713]

I'd give him time. But like Jefroka said natural sun light really can not be beat. Chances are he might have has early stages of MBD and other deffiancies before he slowed down and now that he is warming up again they are starting to show again. Once they are all remadied you should see strenght return, energy, growth and shedding.

That is so reassuring, thank you!

I think he may a bit small still to put a lizard harness on him to take him outside, what do you think?
Thats the only way I can think of to get him some natural sun light...

 

[Riplee]

I'd give him time. But like Jefroka said natural sun light really can not be beat. Chances are he might have has early stages of MBD and other deffiancies before he slowed down and now that he is warming up again they are starting to show again. Once they are all remadied you should see strenght return, energy, growth and shedding.

That is so reassuring, thank you!

I think he may a bit small still to put a lizard harness on him to take him outside, what do you think?
Thats the only way I can think of to get him some natural sun light...

All my tegus keep indoor in their whole life. None of them touched even a little sunlight.

But you can try use a screen cage, like hamster's, then put under the sunlight but make sure give him a hide and a water bowl to protect him from the over heat.

 

[Max713]

I know it's not required, or even needed, but I also know it couldn't hurt in Kimo's case... Although I think it may just be all too risky.

 

[Riplee]

I think your tegu has no calcium problem (maybe a little but not major problem) and Ur cage is prefect.

It is only the Vitamin problem

Sign of vitamin deficiency:
1. the mouth like your tegu
2. Shedding Problem.

U got both.

So try my suggestion, he will be fine in a few months.

Thank you.

 

[james.w]

I believe your problems are from lack of calcium and lack of UVB. The UVB can be made up for by basking in the natural sunlight. A wire cage will work or get 4 pieces of wood and make a square for him to hang out in. But like Riplee said have a hide, water bowl, and shade if you can. Get the calcium on everything that is not whole prey daily and you should see a quick turn-around.

 

[Little Wise Owl]

I'd lean more towards a nutritional deficiency. Ground turkey and calcium simply doesn't have enough nutrients to be a balanced food on its own.

 

[james.w]

I think your tegu has no calcium problem (maybe a little but not major problem) and Ur cage is prefect.

It is only the Vitamin problem

Sign of vitamin deficiency:
1. the mouth like your tegu
2. Shedding Problem.

U got both.

So try my suggestion, he will be fine in a few months.

Thank you.

What makes you think this?? And not a calcium/UVB deficiency??

 

[Max713]

I'd lean more towards a nutritional deficiency. Ground turkey and calcium simply doesn't have enough nutrients to be a balanced food on its own.

That reminds me:
You should not feed raw eggs to your Tegu, I remember a video a while back of your red lapping up some egg yolk.



Thanks for all the help everyone!

 

[Riplee]

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What makes you think this?? And not a calcium/UVB deficiency??


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Because I knew a lot of people's tegus have nutritional/vitamin deficiency, and they all have two major signs:

1. Mouse like this thread.
2. Shedding.

Thank you.